With their latest single released TODAY, we thought it would be a good oppertunity to catch up with Ruby Hive, about their latest single You Mix…
For those who haven’t heard of you, how would you describe yourself?
We are Ruby Hive – a quirky indie pop band based in London. We make the kind of music you would hear in the opening scene of a movie, where the main character is very very very late but still chooses to stop briefly to shoot finger guns at themselves in the bathroom mirror.
Where did music start for you?
Ruby Hive started in 2017 as a reaction to the melancholy we all saw in London’s indie scene. We signed up to our local open mic night as a one off thing but we had so much fun playing that we have not stopped ever since.
You recently released your first track You Mix. Is this a hint at more new music on the way?
Yes, new music is on the horizon;)
Who produced your latest music? Have you worked with them before? How was it working with them?
Our music is organic, fair-trade and locally produced… or no haha, it is not really produced, but our dear friend Douglas Drvota is our mixing engineer and Ted Swords our mastering engineer. We could not be happier about the finished tracks and the friendships that have grown from working together.
Where does the inspiration for your music come from?
We are inspired by everyday life, big stories that play out before us or just a little quote in the magazine. It’s everything in between Swedish indie acts like Håkan Hellström, to Disney Channel intros. We listen a lot to a band called Lake Street Dive at the moment and an up and coming artist called Sammy Rae and the friends, they are brilliant!
Can we expect any music videos on the way?
Yes! Don’t even blink.
Any plans to play any festivals or gigs this year?
Lotsa plans, nothing announced yet – but if you are in Sweden this summer, we are coming for you!
Be kind, stay creative and always paint outside the lines – also, we have a few London shows this spring – so come rock your socks off!
We would like to thank Ruby Hive for taking the time to answer our questions and wish them all the best for this year!
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To help those who haven’t heard of Attic Theory before, how would you describe yourself and most liken yourselves to?
We describe our music as ‘Alternative Sexy Groove Rock’. Our sound is pulled together through so many different influences and styles that we don’t really sound like any other rock band.
You recently released My Own Design. What’s the inspiration for this song?
‘My Own Design’ is inspired by a breakdown in communication within a relationship and the realization that both parties, have become people they don’t even recognize in the mirror anymore, and should not be together. Lyrically, I wanted to mix things up a bit so I made a few alterations to the original subject matter. In ”my version“ of events, one person has come to their senses and has realized they have become a slave of their own making… a slave of their own design… and the other, is hosting their very own pity party and hasn’t grasped that the relationship is over.
Is this a hint at more new music on the way?
We’ve just won ‘Best New Band at the Planet Rock ‘The Rocks’ awards so we have decided to record a new single to give our fans, our ‘Theorists’ new music sooner than they thought, as a thank you for voting for us. The next recording will include new recruit, Matt Lawler on 3rd guitar.
Who produced the track, and how was it working with them?
We recorded the track at the Motor Museum Recording Studio in Liverpool. ‘My Own Design’ was produced by Loic Gailard. Loic understands rock music, he made the final product big, bright, bold and beautiful and is so easy to work with. At one point in the vocal recording process, I started flagging, so Loic got me a dumb bell and made me do curls before I could sing again. It got the blood pumping and clearly worked ha ha ha ha the breath you can hear at the beginning of the track, is me doing curls ha ha ha ha
Did you experience any unexpected advise or criticism along the way?
We attended consultations and workshops with Toby Jepson (Wayward Sons) and Rob Town (Panic Cell) from Lightening in a bottle and they were pretty eye opening. We received honest, constructive advice about our songs, our image and the direction of Attic Theory.
Rob and Toby could see something in us and worked to unleash that very beast.
It can sometimes be hard to hear feedback about your music as your band, is your baby, but every comment from LIAB was followed by positive reinforcement, suggestions and guidance to point us in the right direction. it was an enlightening process.
Who made the single artwork?
I put single artwork together with my wife-to-be Kelly and she took the picture. People think it’s photoshopped but it isn’t. We purchased a cake with the band image on, bought personalised cake toppers and candles and used a black sheet as the back drop. Couldn’t have turned out any better. Then we cut up the cake and ate ourselves ha ha ha ha
Have you shared a show (supported) any big bands before?
We’ve done quite a few, actually. Most recent, we’ve just completed a UK and European tour as direct support for American rockers Tantric, we’ve supported multi-platinum and gold selling artist Candlebox and have just supported Brit-Rockers Terrorvision, who have won a plethora of Kerrang awards over the years. The support slots keep getting bigger and bigger.
What’s your most interesting story from a gig?
When we were on tour with Tantric, their singer Hugo wasn’t used to the cool weather so slept a lot in the tour van. On the way to Bannermans in Edinburgh, Hugo may have unintentional become my ‘snuggle buddy’ and fell asleep across me. Everyone was taking pictures of us and I tried to get one and Hugo slowly opened his eyes, saw me, give a cheeky smile and went back to sleep. Later that night, on stage, Hugo thanked me for being his new ‘snuggle buddy’ and said it was the best sleep he’s had in ages. This whole experience then lead to me taking pictures of all of the guys asleep and photoshopping a human body part into their mouths. Pictures available on request ha ha ha ha
Lots of artists have a ‘stage presence’. What’s yours?
We thrive on making our live shows as entertaining as possible. We try to make the audience comfortable and interact with the them throughout the show. They’ve paid to have a good time and it’s our job to deliver.
What is some advice you’d give to someone who wants to make music?
Don’t give up! We create music that we believe in and have put a lot of hard work and dedication into this band. We never thought we’d see our band on an awards list with the likes of Def Leppard, Foo Fighters, The Who and Slash. They are all among the big winners of ‘The Rocks 2020’ awards. It’s an amazing feeling to be on a list of that magnitude.
Where can we find out more about you?
You can find out more about us from our website and social media. We are proactive on social media so don’t be afraid to comment on posts or message us.
Attic Theory’s next show will be with Tragedy: All Metal Tribute to the Bee Gees & Beyond and Mr. Ted at O2 Academy, Liverpool on Thursday 12th March. Tickets available at attictheory.co.uk/store
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2000 Trees, the eco-friendly festival in the heart of Cheltenham have announced the latest wave of acts at this years festival. Already on the lineup are Jimmy Eat World, Knocked Loose, Creeeper, Hot Milk and many more.
Following on from their recent hugely acclaimed new album ‘The Deadbeat Bang of Heartbreak City’, as well as a European tour with Jawbreaker and US tour with The Goo Goo Dolls, BEACH SLANGreturn to 2000trees Festival for the first time since 2017. Expect Cheap Trick meets The Replacements style emotional and melodic scuzzy punk rock, as well as one of the most honest and hard working front men in rock in the shape of guitarist/vocalist (and ‘Mr’ Beach Slang), James Alex.
Beach Slang
Also announced today are NOVA TWINS. Refusing to conform to any template, the duo fuse bass-heavy, grimey rave sounds, taking inspiration from artists as divergent in style as N.E.R.D., The Prodigy, Missy Elliott, and New York Dolls. As such, the best friends have turned rock on its head, injecting their songs with boundless energy, barely controlled rage and heavy riffs. Nova Twins are capturing a unique moment in time with their genre-bending methods, capturing fans of all demographics with a riotous attitude and boundless resilience.
NOVA TWINS
Californian five-piece punk band SPANISH LOVE SONGS will be making their 2000trees debut this summer. The band recently released their third album ‘Brave Faces Everyone,’ which has received rave reviews across the board and supported The Menzingers on their UK headline tour. You can expect brilliant melodies, soul-bearing lyrics and punk energy from this much adored band.
“The album of the year so far for me is ‘Brave Faces Everyone’ by Spanish Love Songs, and this is closely followed by the brilliant ‘The Deadbeat Bang of Heartbreak City’ by Beach Slang. Absolute bangers both of them and I can’t wait to hear these songs in the sunshine at Upcote Farm!” says booker James Scarlett.
Spanish Love Songs at SWX Bristol, supporting The Menzingers
Other acts announced include Bent Knee, Lande Hekt, Non Canon and Andrew Cushin.
In 2019 2000 Trees banned plastic and introduced the GreenGoblet cup scheme. This all contributed to a 6 tonne reduction in waste from the previous year. We also had Frank Water for the first time and over the course of the weekend, Frank Water served just over 6,700 litres of chilled filtered water from our kiosks. This means that around 13,500 single use plastic bottles that haven’t ended up in landfill or our oceans.
2000Trees Festival is partnering with two fantastic charities this year. Stay tuned for how you can get involved in the coming months.
Attitude is Everything (registered charity number 1121975) works in partnership with audiences, artists and the live music industry to improve Deaf and disabled people’s access to live music. “I’m thrilled that 2000Trees are the first music company to announce how they are going to ‘play their part’ in Attitude is Everything’s 20th Anniversary next year. 2000Trees have chosen us as one of their charity partners: fans and guests of the festival will be able to donate to us when purchasing their tickets.” Suzanne Bull MBE, CEO.
TREE AID helps people in the drylands of Africa to lift themselves out of poverty and protect their environment. People here live in some of the toughest conditions on earth and trees are essential to their survival. Trees provide nutrition, generate income and help to create a healthy environment. TREE AID works with local communities to help them protect and grow trees, for themselves and for future generations.
2000trees Festival is located on Upcote Farm, near Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, GL54 4BL
With his latest release Run, and just getting back to the UK from New Zealand, I thought it would be a good opportunity to catch up with Ben about his music.
For those who haven’t heard of you before, how would you describe yourself and your music?
Well I’d like to think my music is energetic and uplifting. Hopefully I occasionally match these qualities as a person… Yeah probably not.
Where did music begin for you?
In my bedroom in Tynemouth in the UK where I grew up, around the age of 8 when I first picked up an old acoustic guitar. But I guess getting into music probably started much younger than that on trips in the car with a cassette player listening to a mix of The Beatles, The Spice Girls and ‘The Smurfs Go Pop’. Haha. Bloody hell. (I assure you my music taste is better now than when I was four).
Which artists do you take inspiration from?
I’d probably say I take inspiration from the musicians I am surrounded by over here in Western Australia. I have some very talented mates: Michael Dunstan, Dave Sonntag, Luke Fox, Kallidad to name a few. And I get a lot of inspiration from metal, electronic, world, blues, folk, roots genres. I’m a big fan of instrumental music and how you can tell a story of evoke a feeling without words.
You recently released your latest single – Run. Who produced the single, and have you worked with them before? How was it working with them?
I worked with Andy Lawson who has his studio out in the hills of Perth. I’d wanted to work with him for a few years, but he’s always booked out so far in advance. A testament to his amazing work.
Is this single a hint at more new music on the way?
It was intended as a stand-alone piece for now, but the sound is probably a hint of the general direction I’m continuing in.
Where did the inspiration for the lyrics come from?
The lyrics came from running. It’s my longest-standing love alongside music. For me it’s a tool for all things positive – you never regret going out and getting the blood pumping. And I just wanted to keep the lyrics a touch poetic, rather than being anything too literal. Nobody wants to hear a song about bunions and nipple rash, do they. Haha.
Any plans for any tours or festivals this year?
I’ve just finished up a New Zealand tour and I do believe I’ll be back over to the UK for a tour and a run of festivals in the summer. Keen!
What is that one gig you will always remember playing?
Hmm there are a few for different reasons. But one that seems to stick out was when I played Green Man Festival in Wales in 2018. It was a really good stage and I had a good crowd from the start. But something had been up with my guitar on that tour and I had been snapping so many strings, which is unusual. Sure enough, I think not even one minute into the start of my set, TWO strings snapped at the same time. And then the song after another string snapped. As a solo artist you don’t have a drummer or rhythm guitarist to fill the void while you change strings, so I was forced to talk a bit of shit. It could have gone either way, but fortunately the crowd was with me and it just made the energy and interaction of the show so much better. Sometimes the best things come out of something going wrong.
Where would you hope to be this time next year?
I’d like to have released more music and be keeping busy on the road. Slightly better stages and time slots each year at festivals. And to stay happy of course.
Where can we find out more about you?
The usual Facebook and Instagram thing. And my music is everywhere on the usual online platforms; Spotify, Apple Music etc.
Friday October 30th I will be putting on a very special gig to celebrate making it ten years in the music world since my very first album.
In 2010 I released the 7 track mini album ‘Songs From Bellies of Dragons’ and since then have been working as a professional musician and have released 6 more full length albums, a live album, an acoustic album and several EPs.
To celebrate this milestone we are going to have a lovely party downstairs at the Grain Barge in Bristol where I will play lots of songs old and new with several collaborations planned with fellow musicians.
Supporting on the night will be the wonderfully gifted country and Americana singer Holly Carter and the passionate and dedicated Liam Goodman. Tickets are on the Headfirst Bristol website and it’s going to be a bloody lovely evening.
Words by Ted Stargatt
Anyone from the Bristol music scene knows just how good a show Chris puts on. After playing the occasional backing guitar for another Bristol legend, Gaz Brookfield, Chris is now back on home turf, playing a selection of songs as a celebration of 10 years of his music.
Since releasing his first mini-album 10 years ago, Chris has gone on to make a host of other tracks, albums and EPs, all worth checking out.
If you are around Bristol in October, this is a gig that is worth checking out.
After the release of the video for their latest single When The Night Is Over, I thought it would be good to catch up with the band.
For those who haven’t heard of Six To Fix before, how would you describe yourselves and liken yourselves to?
Six To Fix is an indie rock band with some electronic sounds. You can find melodies alongside catchy choruses, guitars and keyboards. There are influences by The Killers, The 1975, U2… some classics and some modern influences that give us our personal sound.
Who’s in the band and how did you all meet?
We are four members: Alfonso (vocals), Pau (bass), Adrian (drums) and Sergio (guitar). We met ourselves in the band and we became friends after that.
You released your latest single When The Night Is Over recently. Is this a hint at more new music on the way?
Yes, we are currently recording the new album ‘Imagination’. It’ll be out there soon.
Who produced this music? Have you worked with them before? What was it like working with them?
‘When the night is over’ was produced by Julian Emery, who has worked with Nothing but thieves, and the song was mixed by Adam Noble, who worked with Biffy Clyro, U2, Placebo… It’s a great experience working with them, Julian is always bringing ideas and we learned a lot working with him. And Adam’s mix is the icing on the cake, bringing the song that powerful sound.
Where did the inspiration for these come from?
Up and downs of life are the inspiration for this song. It’s like ‘things can go wrong, but tomorrow will be another day’.
You also recently released the video for When The Night Is Over. How was that to make, and who directed it?
The video was directed by Fernando from Salinas Agency, we had worked with him before. It was funny to make it, the first part is a couple arguing and then making peace, and the other part is the band in the room with them trying to make them calm down.
Is there any plans for any festivals or any gigs this year?
Yes, we have some dates for festivals and gigs scheduled in Spain, and we’ll try to tour in other countries soon.
Where can we find out more about you?
You can go to www.sixtofix.com or search for Six to Fix on social networks.
Is there anything else you would like to tell us?
If you like our music don’t forget to follow us on social networks and streaming services. And thank you for supporting us!
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For those who haven’t heard of WD-HAN before, how would you describe the band and liken yourself to?
Hey, what’s up?! We’re WD-HAN (which stands for We Don’t Have A Name) from Tampa Bay, Florida. We’re a rock trio that blends an alternative style with big, balls-out blues. If you have Black Keys next to Third Eye Blind next to Muse on your playlists, we’ll get along fine!
Who’s in the band and how did you all meet?
We’re Lea on drums, Cal on guitar and Spence as lead singer. We have a really tight-knit group – Lea and Spence are married, as are Cal and our manager. We all met in high school and have been best friends and band mates since.
being so “ride or die” would be pretty intense for a lot of bands, but we really work hard to respect each other as artists and keep in good communication. It’s worked pretty well so far!
Where did making music first start for you?
That answer is probably different for each of us, for instance Lea was in an awesome all female band in middle school before joining WD-HAN. However, we all really got our start making music for real when we got together as a band in our current format.
We’ve now been writing and recording together for over a decade and we really feel like we’ve hit our stride in the last couple of years, starting with our debut album, Kings of Castles.
Where did the inspiration for the lyrics for ICARUS come from and what does the song mean to you?
When you’re an artist and working on it every day, you don’t have to look far for inspiration – the enormity of the challenge you’re facing is plenty of fuel for the fire. ICARUS is about being someone with a goal that any reasonable person would “know” to be too big, and just going for it anyway.
Anyone that’s an artist is like that, and we all have to just ignore any kind of noise and keep trying to fly to the sun, over and over, no matter what happens.
Is this single a hint at more new music on the way?
Hell yes! 2020 is going to be our most prolific year yet. We just completed 4 new songs in the studio and are planning on releasing a new song every month for the entire year.
Who produced the music? Have you worked with them before, and what was it like working with them?
Our latest three songs were produced by Alex Arias. Making Summertime Star Sign, Spaceman and Icarus last year was the first time we’d worked with him and it was a blast. We definitely clicked and felt that the music we made was the most “us” art we’d put out yet, while Alex’s influence brought the production to a new level.
We worked with Alex again in January of 2020, and see no reason for that not to continue. We make a great team and he’s a hell of a producer.
Any plans to go on tour, or to play any festivals this year?
Definitely! Our focus in recent times has been on the studio and recording side of things, but now we have essentially 7 new songs either just out or about to come out, we have plans to tour the Southeast USA and will be adding many dates in the coming months. You can check out where we’ll be playing on our website: www.wdhan.com.
Where do you hope to be this time next year?
Doing the exact same thing, but to a larger audience. Making and putting out new music is what this is all about, so it would be amazing to continue that trend and keep expanding as artists.
What is one piece of advice you would give to anyone trying to get their name out there?
Keep going! Being a musician isn’t a journey with a destination and no matter what audience you reach you’ll always want to do more. Be diligent, work your ass off and just keep being an artist. Don’t let any number of “reasons” stop you from doing your thing!
Where can we find out more about you?
We’re really active on Instagram, and we post updates about all shows on Facebook as well. Also, you can subscribe on our website at www.wdhan.com.
Anything else you would like to tell us?
Thank you so much for having us on the blog! It’s truly an honor and we hope to collaborate again in the future as we release more music. To any fans or those we’re just meeting who are thinking of checking out our music, thank you so much for listening! It means more than the world and we promise to never stop trying to fly to the sun.
Love, WD-HAN
Photos from Laia Gore
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The song was made a couple months prior to release and was one that took a while as it pushed me all the way out of my comfort zone considering I usually produce and write rap music. I produced the track at 3-6am on a weekday as I got the idea and couldn’t rest until it was finished. I wrote it the following day. The inspiration for the song comes from where my head was at, at the time of producing where I was feeling quite angry and trapped in my own mind, held accountable to the judgement of others from just making rap music. I also had a couple of fallings out in my personal life with people who had drained a lot of my energy already so the track and lyrics were symbolic of me pushing at different doors and avenues while reflecting on my path trying to find a way to move forward.
In terms of actual lyrical content I reference Liverpool and working class culture that I grew up surrounded by in my family. I also touch on drug use in society and relationship trouble throughout. I would describe it as a bit of a paint splatter of emotions really haha.
I went to my studio to record the track which I finished in 30 minutes. Usually when recording I listen meticulously to each syllable to make sure my pronunciation is to my liking but with this song I felt pretty happy from the get go about how it sounded. maybe because it was a true reflection of emotion? idk. Hopefully this should be enough for you to sample from and chop up into your article. If anything else LMK.
IDK if its worth the mention but i am releasing a new track and video every month this year (hopefully) to stay consistent and i am appearing on BLACKBOX which is a rap freestyle channel for up and comers bit like LINK UP OR GRM DAILY. next week. This might be of value to you to tie up the feature.
Words By Ted Stargatt:
Derrick Nenzo’s Cut The Lights is a modern rap song, focusing on the difficulties of modern life. Exploring issues of identity, race, religion and fitting in, this song is one to look out for in the charts.
The music video helps refine this message, with the whirlwind of the back of the van showing just how mad this world has become.
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With the release of their latest album Darkness Brings The Wonders Home on 31st January, Chichester’s Smoke Fairies have gone on tour across the UK. I caught their show at Rough Trade Bristol.
The sold out show was opened by John J Presley, a jazz-rock artist from Birmingham, supported by Paul May on the drums. John played us 8 tracks from his discography. His eccentric style, with heavy jazz chords and LOTS of reverb (so much reverb) was a good way to open the show.
After a short wait, the band took to the stage, welcomed with cheers from the crowd. Along with Katherine and Jessica, John J Presley was playing bass guitar and Shaun Fellowfield was on the drums.
The night’s set was opened with Super Tremolo, the 10th track lifted off the latest release. The melodic rhythms and vocal styles made it a great opener to the show. This was followed by Chew Your Bones, another song lifted from Darkness Brings…
Out Of The Woods, with Jessica on the bass,and Eclipse Them All followed, the first song from an earlier album. A few introductions were said, but as a band they were definitely more players than talkers. This preceded Summer Fades, one of their earliest tracks, from their 2010 album Through Low Light and Trees.
One of their biggest tracks was played next, with Disconnect getting the room on their feet. This was before After The Rain, Left To Roll and their next biggest track Elevator. This was also joined with some great words of advice from Katherine – “don’t have important conversations in lifts.”
Alas, we were told there would only be two more songs. Don’t You Want To Spiral Out Of Control? Was first of the last two, and the final track of the night from Darkness… before The Three Of Us rocked the crowd for what we thought was the end.
After a short walk-off walk-on from the band, we were treated to two actual last songs. Feel It Coming Near, a song about Laika, the first dog in space, was met with an “aww” from the crowd when we were told “he made it up, but did not come back down”, before the final track of the night. According to the setlist, this was And One For Luck, and although I’m not certain, I think it was Chocolate Rabbit, lifted from Darkness… that closed the night. It was met with cheers and shouts from the crowd, but the night was over. They also stayed around for photos and to sell merch at the end.
And with that, thanks must always go to the team at Rough Trade Bristol (who still need to sort their prices out) and Katherine Blamire, Jessica Davies, John J Presley, Shaun Fellowfield and Paul May for an excellent show.
After the release of their 6th studio album, Hello Exile, in October 2019, Pennsylvania’s The Menzingers are currently on tour, starting in the USA last year, before coming over to Europe and the UK. I checked them out in Bristol.
The night was opened by Mannequin Pussy, a four-piece punk rock group, also from Pennsylvania. They played a selection of songs from their albums from over the years. A new find for me, this group’s out-there style was a great way to open up the night.
A short wait, and Spanish Love Songs were next on stage. After releasing their latest album, Brave Faces Everyone, earlier that day, as well as playing an acoustic set at The Exchange, these guys rocked the stage. Playing 10 songs, both from the latest release and previous albums, it set the tone for the night nicely.
Soon after, SWX was plunged into darkness and David Bowie’s Rebel Rebel started playing. Tension and excitement grew through the crowd, as we anticipated what was next.
Anna, the most popular track (according to Spotify) from the latest album was played first, and the crowd were already on their feet and moving. This was followed by The Obituaries, contrasting with a song from a slightly older album, and the crowd continued to jump and dance along. After this was House on Fire, and the circle pits and singalongs ripped through the crowd. This was when the first crowd surfers started, and security had a fun job of getting them off the barrier.
Rodent, Portland and Good Things, followed, with more mosh pits and crowd surfers, including some dropped before even making it to the front. Luckily the alcohol meant it probably didn’t hurt too bad.
This preceded Burn After Writing, Thick As Thieves and High School Friends, a good mix of songs to dance and drink to. Tellin’ Lies was song 10 of the night, with more moshing and crowd surfing, keeping security on their toes. Last To Know and Strangers Forever was next, and though these songs weren’t moshed to as much, they still went down excellently, and almost everyone was singing along.
A message to home – America You’re Freaking Me Out – was played next, before their definitive most popular song (again, according to Spotify), I Don’t Wanna Be An Assehole Anymore, was played. Somehow, the crowd moved even more, with the most surfers of the whole night. A massive thank you must be said to the security for dealing with it well.
Up next was Nice Things, Your Wild Years (with a special shout out to those who came to see The Menzingers last time they played in Bristol) and London Drugs, another song lifted from Hello Exile.
The band then played a cover of The Clash’s Death or Glory. Although not what most of us expected to be singing along to, it was still a welcome part of the set.
The (first) big finish of the night was Lookers, with more pits and a general enjoyment from the crowd. At the end of the song, the lights went out, the band left the stage and we all waited, knowing it wasn’t really the end.
After a few minutes, Greg, Tom, Eric and Joe came back to the stage for two more songs.
In remission, was first song of the encore, followed by another of The Menzingers biggest hits. After The Party ended the night, with a final bit of moshing and one last crowd surfer, the night was drawn to a close.
The only complaint I have about the night that SWX is the coldest venue I have ever been in. Never have I thought about getting my coat from the cloakroom before the gig has even started.
And with that, thanks must go to Mannequin Pussy, Spanish Love Songs and The Menzingers, as well as the staff and security at SWX.